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Dallas Steve  
#1 Posted : Monday, April 8, 2019 2:16:44 PM(UTC)
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CaliPro, who I think has tried to import 2 women to the US and failed both times (like me) claims that there are only 2 options with finding a wife in Colombia:

1 - Make a baby with her (like he has done)
2 - Pick one with children from another man (my choice)

He claims if you marry a Colombiana who is childless and don't make a baby with her you are basically using her as a sex toy and the relationship is doomed. I think he is right in most cases. Since I already have as many children as I want, and I don't want to be raising one until I am 80, I prefer to pick one who already has children.

It's a trade-off, and in my case, one that is less than perfect. In my case, my wife has a 20 year old son who dropped out of high school and is enjoying a semi-permanent vacation in our apartment. But the vacation is about to end, as I have posted before. I am not going to let him ruin my retirement, and in 5 months his mother will have to choose whether she ships him off to live in Cali, or she goes with him and I go off to Colombia.

One thing CaliPro doesn't mention about option 1 is that if you are 56 like him, or 62 like me, your chances of birth defects increase. Most men don't know that, or ignore it. It is better known that older mothers have more birth defects (like Down Syndrome), but I've read the same is true of older men. It only makes sense that those sperms are getting older, too.

If I went to Colombia, I would not import a new woman to the US. At this point I would just live there and if the relationship goes sideways, I can always get a new one.

This reminds me of something that the immigration agent said to me when she first arrived in Miami. He grudgingly let her in, even though it was my 3rd K1 visa and I was much older and she was still pretty hot. (Why did they approve the visa if they aren't going to let her in?) He said "You know this is your last time?" I agreed. I might be able to get another K1, despite the rules, but I have no desire to try. I'll just enjoy the sex toys in Colombia, if this marriage ends.

Steve

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#2 Posted : Tuesday, April 9, 2019 11:03:27 AM(UTC)
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I said I would try to stay off these stupid forms...but I have a little time. so I guess I will post

So Steve, opens up a plethora of ethical and moral questions..


If you just want a"sex toy" how honest will you be with the woman? This is getting pretty close to prostitution you know. Basically exchanging money for sex.

Most Colombianas I know, dont like it that they themselves or others consider them Putas, or at least dont want to admit they are putas, even if they accept money for sex. Even the ones that are lieing, scheming , cheating, manipulative Putas

Question 1.How honest will you be with a woman? Will you just say you believe in an "open " relationship?

A lot of Colombianas say they want a "serious " relationship, so they can maniplate a guy int paying thier bills, meanwhile they are screwing other gringos , Euros,, Latinos, or barrio boys, some for compensation, some for free.

Question 2: Will you try to find this type of woman, lie to her,like she is lieng to you, you both have other lovers on the side, but you both live in a facade that the relation is "serious"? In this kind of relationship, not only is it based on lies, but there is a greater chance of STDs than with prostitutes.

Question 3: If you find a women who really wants a long term commited relation, and to the best of your knowledge, she is honest and true, but there are things about her you dont like, a lot of incompatibilities- maybe some "irreconcilable differences", will you go along using her as long as possible, until you get bored? Will you try to resolve the incompatibilities and have a truly serious and long lasting relationship? Will you be honest and dump her, because you are just looking for a sex toy, and there are too many issues to be resolved for a real "serious" relation?

if you take the "high road" and be totaly honest and open and admit to the woman you are looking for an "open " relation (which it will be , at least on her part , if you are looking for just a "Sex Toy"), you realize you will be limiting your potential prospects..?

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#3 Posted : Tuesday, April 9, 2019 3:12:00 PM(UTC)
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I'm glad that you responded. These are the topics that most interest me on these forums. You raise some valid concerns. I did write "I'll just enjoy the sex toys in Colombia, if this marriage ends.", but I would do it honestly. I would not lie to the women. And if I met someone special it might evolve into a long-term relationship. But at my age I don't worry about whether she leaves or whether it lasts or not or whether I get an STD. At my age I worry about things like the Big C and high blood pressure. As long as I have my health and some money I'm doing good. And when I lose my health, nothing else will really matter. That will be the end of the rodeo.

Steve
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, April 9, 2019 9:25:22 PM(UTC)
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I'll be absolutely honest with you here. I don't think I could do the 'sex toy' thing. Not that I am being a prude or anything like that. But I was never exposed to that sort of thing. As guys, we always 'talked', (read, BS'ed), about stuff like that along with the size of our libido. But it wasn't too long ago where my confidence was such that I 'couldn't get laid in a women's prison with a fist full of pardons!' Not to get too descripitive but I wonder about my 'staying power', (where's 'Smiling Bob' when you need him with his enzyte?) with my age creeping in. I'm overweight, I exercise very regularly, and get good lab work on my blood. But sometimes I wonder when the pier will forever collapse! Sorry for the lament!
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#5 Posted : Friday, April 12, 2019 12:08:45 PM(UTC)
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I never posted a reply, but a thought did occur to me. When I said that I would probably choose the "sex toy" route, I was thinking of CaliPro's use of the term wherein I would pick a partner, but not produce children with her. He says that is basically using her as a sex toy. And she would basically be using me as an ATM. As long as she is happy, I'm happy. But marriage is not on my horizon. I used to be religious and believe that it was a sin to not marry the woman, but I no longer have those beliefs or hang-ups. I will stop there so as not to offend the believers.

Steve

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#6 Posted : Friday, April 12, 2019 6:45:46 PM(UTC)
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Calipro thinks his way is the only way...like he is the Guru of Planet Love and most guys just lap it up..

You go out with Single Moms you are raising another mans sperm and you are Beta Cuck..

If you dont have a child with a woman, she doesnt really love you (funny I know a few Colombianas, and heard of other women from the wrong side of the track getting pregnant just so the "baby Dady- i.e.-father would support her financially)..

What if she really doesnt want to have children or cant?

blah, blah, blah


While I agree there is truth with some of what he says to a degree, he is obviously brain washed by all that "Alpha-Beta-Gamma" , PUA, etc,,stuff on the internet in the "Manosphere"

Calipro is on his 5th marriage... now I admit I am an old wrinkly 62 YO codger,too nice of a guy, get abused sometimes, make a lot of mistakes, and probably the last person who can give advice on women (except on what not to do), but in reality, how the heck can a 54 year old guy who is on his fifth marriage be taken to be a "Guru" on serious relations with women, except maybe getting one night stands, or short term sexual trysts, and then only in Colombia (by his own admission)?

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#7 Posted : Friday, April 12, 2019 7:35:25 PM(UTC)
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Calipro is on his 5th marriage... now I admit I am an old wrinkly 62 YO codger,too nice of a guy, get abused sometimes, make a lot of mistakes, and probably the last person who can give advice on women (except on what not to do), but in reality, how the heck can a 54 year old guy who is on his fifth marriage be taken to be a "Guru" on serious relations with women, except maybe getting one night stands, or short term sexual trysts, and then only in Colombia (by his own admission)?

Well, you can say he has the 'divorce' end of it down pretty good!
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#8 Posted : Saturday, April 13, 2019 10:56:44 PM(UTC)
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I never posted a reply, but a thought did occur to me. When I said that I would probably choose the "sex toy" route, I was thinking of CaliPro's use of the term wherein I would pick a partner, but not produce children with her. He says that is basically using her as a sex toy. And she would basically be using me as an ATM. As long as she is happy, I'm happy. But marriage is not on my horizon. I used to be religious and believe that it was a sin to not marry the woman, but I no longer have those beliefs or hang-ups. I will stop there so as not to offend the believers.

I'm a believer but I aint going to thump you with the Bible. Hey, its your gig. Live it the way you like it because chances are you're not going to get another one! When I made that statement about I couldn't do that sort of thing, it wasn't really a morality issue, it was more like, "How in the hell do I handle this?" issue. As an 'older dog', there is no way I even want to go down that road. Especially with a Latina! I remember hearing stories about my former shipmate's days in the Philippines when GF1 learned about GF2. The name 'Lorena Bobbitt' conjures up enough nightmares! No, I am very happy servicing one thank you!
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#9 Posted : Sunday, April 14, 2019 11:36:36 AM(UTC)
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In Colombia, if you are in an open "sex toy" relation , like Steve said, if GF1 finds about GF2 she will complain and try to use his to manipuate you , but if you keep paying the bills, she will shut up, until maybe she finds another Marrano who she can take for more$$.

The Lorena Bobbitt thing is basically an overblown urban legend.

In these types of relationships, the women may have other foreigners and/or barrio boys on line themselves, some supporting them financially , others not. They may be actually supporting their pimp barrio boyfriend with the money you give them.

Also being old and overweight doesnt matter to these women. I have seen some really disgusting short, fat , poorly dressed, ugly gringos with various young desperate Colombianas.

You can get a woman in your 80s when you are Social Security if you find one desperate enough. Just be prepared to accept there is no "love", she may be screwing other guys, and the locals will all be making comments and laughing behind your back. If that doesnt bother you, then you can handle it.

The worst situation to be in, and to be avoided like the plague, and what a lot of manipulative Colombianas of all ages like, is for you to be maddly in-love with her, supporting, her, trusting her..whereas she is in it just to take advantage of you and have fun with her barrio boys, or have multiple marrano gringos or foreigners online actually supporting here or available to "monkey branch" to. This situation is really easy to figure out, but some guys purpoesly ignore it.

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